How porn harms, Dr. John Foubert with Jonathon Van Maren

Dr. John Foubert, an expert on sexual assault prevention and pornography, joins Jonathon Van Maren to discuss what our culture can do to combat the porn pandemic. His new book has recently been released, and is full of vital information that provides a road map to what has unfolded over the past two decades.

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15 thoughts on “How porn harms, Dr. John Foubert with Jonathon Van Maren

  1. RR says:

    It’s so horrible and messed up that now more women are using pornography,when there is a lot of evidence that even the so-called non-violent pornography is connected to sexual assaults of women,and all pornography has always been extremely sexist,woman-hating,male dominated harmful images that is intended to and does totally dehumanize women as nothing but sex objects and body parts to be used for men’s pleasure,and even in the so-called non-violent typical pornography often has men calling teen girls and women female hating names,such as sluts,c*m eating whores,and b*tches,and men ejaculating on women’s faces and bodies.

    It’s horrible enough when men use sexist,woman-hating,degrading of women materials,but it’s even worse when women do! It’s exactly the same thing as if there were Black people using,and enjoying racist Ku Klux Klan pornography and Jewish people using and enjoying Nazi pornography! But sadly because pornography was so unjustly and wrongly put on the internet and mainstreamed,many women in a sexist,gender stereotyped,male dominated society are influenced by it too.

    This is a major 2010 study by psychologist Neil Malamuth G.Hald, and C.Yuen called,Pornography and attitudes supporting violence against women: revisiting the relationship in non experimental studies and found that present research found an overall significant positive association between pornography use and attitudes supporting violence against women! They found it was stronger for violent pornography but also significant with ”non-violent” pornography,the quotation marks are mine.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19862768

    Here is a lot of recent important information by pro-feminist sociologist and gender studies professor Dr.Michael Flood from Australia on the strong evidence that pornography is very harmful and is connected to men and boys sexual violence and harassment of girls and women.

    http://www.xyonline.net/category/article-content/pornography

    I have a post printed out since 2003,but I’m not sure when it was written,it’s called in a Smut Rut Why Does Pornography Harm Women?And one of the many things she says is porn also harms women because it causes men to unkowingly view women as less than human,as less than themselves;as objects or animals.She then says,it teaches them not only to be dominators,but also misogynists-meaning they believe women are not their equal but their pets,their servants.Then she says,if men believe women are less than human,it is logical to believe that viewing pornography leads to violence against women,as statistics have shown.If women are viewed in reality as the objects that they are in porn;to be used,abused,and tossed aside at will,than the logical result will be spousal(or partner)abuse.She mentions Ted Bundy and his addiction to hardcore pornography and she said that the violent acts in the pornography were eventually not real enough for him and he eventually killed and mutilated women in reality.

    She then says,under the heading For Women,An upsetting trend now is the fact the women are increasingly not only accepting of porn,but are becoming viewers of porn,even though it’s an industry that is so injurious and contemtous of them.What started out as a trend of women who viewed pornography with their partners reluctantly has become a culture of women who embrace it as being “feminist” or “liberating”.She then says,that some would argue that porn can be “feminist” in nature,but I believe it is all a crude adoption of the same belittling,objectifying lack of ethics that hurts women in other types pornography.

    She says the porn I speak of that is rationalized to be “feminist” is that in which the female is the dominatrix,or master and abuser. In Fifty Shades Of Sick,Violent,Sexist, Damaging,Woman-Hating, the woman is not the dominatrix and abuser,but in the old role that women have been in for 1,000’s of years,dominated,subordinated,submissive,to men and abused by men! Then she says,it is not feminist to objectify men or treat them as animals,simply because they have done so to us.It is only stooping to their level,adopting the values that we are trying to react *against*.She says,being a feminist does not mean belittling the other sex-that would only be revenge. A true feminist respects both sexes and would treat the “opposite” sex as they would want to be treated.Then she says that women are the population most hurt by all types of pornography,and should be the first to refuse to look at,watch or accept it.

    Here Is My blog called, A LOT OF STRONG RESEARCH AND OTHER IMPORTANT INFORMATION ON THE HARMS OF PORNOGRAPHY

    https://wordpress.com/posts/alotofstrongresearchotherimportantinformationontheharmsofpornog.wordpress.com

  2. RR says:

    There was a university of Pennsylvania student who was gang raped in 1990 after college men watched porn videos in their dorms.And I still have a 1985 letter written into Mademoiselle Magazine by a woman who wrote in response to Peter Nelson’s His Column,Why Nice Guys Like Playboy,she wrote from Allendale New Jersey,”I just finished reading Peter Nelson’s His Column.Peter Nelson is certainly no nice guy,nor is any participant in pornography, a trade which profits from the exploitation of women.Why I must ask does a so-called “womans’ magazine” feature editorials which support misogyny? Mr.Nelson’s callous disregard for women is evident in his neglect to face the fact that pornography promotes rape and violence .I know,because my best friend was raped by four men who used pornography as a reference guide.

    There were several articles that were online from MIT’s newspaper The Tech from 1983,1984 and 1985 about how women were being sexually harassed year after year in the 1980’s after men watched hardcore porn videos on campus at the university lecture hall and because of the sexual harassment of women students after the showings. Rhea from the sadly former Women’s Alliance Against Pornography Education Project in Cambridge,sent me a lot of research on the harms of pornography back in 1991.One of the things she sent me included information that North Carolina State Representavie Richard Wright-Democrat,while announcing enactment of anti-pornography legislation he sponsored,cited a N.C. State Police study which found:defendants in 75% of the violent sex crimes in the state”had some kind of hard-core pornographic material” in their homes or vechicles.”I’m talking about S&M (sadistic & masochistic)material,bondage he said,that came from The New York Times 1/26/86 &10/13/85;The Virginian Pilot 10/20/85 and the articles were contributed by Alexandra Basil,Ray Lynn Oliver;Barbara Sparrow.

    The information also included a study conducted by the Michigan State Police in which 38,000 sexual assaults from 1956 to 1979 were analyzed found that in at least 41% of those crimes,pornography was used or imitated just prior to or during the act this came from Ladies Home Journal October 1985.The information Rhea sent me also included that a study of 36 convicted sexually oriented murderers/serial killers,found the single most common trait amongst them was 81% listed their primary sexual interest as pornography,71% voyeurism.The study’s objective,conducted by the FBI’s behavioral science unit in Quantico,Virginia,was to develop a psychological profile on sex killers in order to track them faster.The researchers concluded,after interviews with the 36 who collectively provided information on 1,188 murders,that the killers were characteristically immeresed in fantasy,this came from NY Daily News 6/26/85 and This World 7/14/85.

    Acclaimed radical feminist psychologist Phyllis Chesler says in her book,Patriarchy:Notes Of An Expert Witness that serial killers are obsessed with pornography and woman hatred and sexually use their victims both before and after killing them,and she said most wife beaters,pedophiles,rapists and serial killers of women are addicted to pornography. Nobody would need to do studies to prove that racist and anti-semetic pornography is very harmful to Blacks and Jews and it never would have been mainstreamed and made acceptable!

    Dr.Gene Abel who treats sex offenders also found that more than 50% of sex offenders used pornography and that they were less able to control their abusive behavior than sex offenders who didn’t use it. Psychiatrist Dr.William Marshall who treats rapists and child molesters,found that 86% of rapists regularly use pornography and that 57% imitate pornographic scenes in the committing of their crimes he also found that in a study of convicted child molesters in Ontario Canada,77% of those who molested boys and 87% of those who molested girls said they were regular users of hard-core pornography.

  3. RR says:

    In 1994 I wrote to psychiatrist Dr.Linnea Smith about my experience and the harms of pornography. She wrote me back a very nice note and thanked me for my important efforts to educate people on the harms of porn. She said it’s especially difficult because the public is desensitzed and the media is reluctant to criticize other media especially sexually explicit media and this was pre-internet pornography when people became even *more* desensitized. She sent me two huge folders full of important information on the harms including Playboy cartoons of women being sexually harassed in the workplace by their male bosses!

    One of the many things she sent me was a transcribed lecture by psychiatrist and law professor Dr.Park Elliott Dietz, and this lecture was given before the National Conference of State Legislators on August 5 1986 and was videotaped by C-Span. Dr. Dietz served as a commissioner on the Attorney General’s Commission on Pornography. He was professor of law,professor of Behavioral Medicine and Psychiatry,and Medical Director of The Institute of Law,Psychiatry and Medical Director of The Institute of Law,Psychiatry and Public Policy at The University of Virginia School of Law and School of Medicine.

    He gave many examples of women and children’s testimonies who were sexually abused by men who used pornography,and also women who were sexually harassed on the job with pornographic pictures hung up on the walls and shown to them. He said he only used a small sample of the 1000’s of women and children who testified. He says many times that pornography is a health problem and human rights issue and he said one of the reasons is because so much of it teaches false,misleading,and even dangerous information about human sexuality.

    This is what he said a person would learn about sexuality from pornography, “A person who learned about human sexuality in the “adults only” pornography outlets of America would be a person,who had never conceived of a man and woman marrying or even falling in love before having intercourse,who had never conceived of two people making love in privacy without guilt or fear of discovery,who had never conceived of tender foreplay,who had never conceived of vaginal intercourse with ejac**ation during intromission,and who had never conceived of procreation as a purpose of sexual union.,

    Instead,such a person would be one who had learned that sex at home meant sex with one’s children,stepchildren,parents,stepparents,siblings,cousins,nephews,nieces,aunts,uncles,and pets,and with neighbors,milkmen,plumbers,salesmen,burglars,and peepers,who had learned that people take off their clothes and have sex within the first 5 minutes of meeting one another,who had learned to misjudge the percentage of women who prepare for sex by shaving their pubic hair,having their breasts,buttocks or legs tattooed,having their nipples or labia pierced,or donning leather,latex,rubber,or childlike costumes,who had learned to misjudge the proportion of men who prepare for sex by having their genitals or nipples pierced,wearing women’s clothing,or growing breasts.

    Who had learned that about 1 out of 5 sexual encounters involves spanking,whipping,fighting,wrestling,tying,chaining,gagging,or torture,who had learned that more than 1 in 10 sexual acts involves a party of more than 2, who had learned that the purpose of ejaculation is that of soiling the mouths,faces,breasts,abdomens,backs,and food at which it’s always aimed,who had learned that body cavities were designed for the insertion of foreign objects,who had learned that the an*s was a genital to be licked and penetrated,who had learned that urine and excrement are erotic materials,who had learned that the instruments of sex chemicals,handcuffs,gags,hoods,restraints,harnesses,police badges,knives,guns,whips,paddles,toilets,diapers,enema bags,inflatable rubber women,and disembodied vaginas,breasts,and penises,who had learned that except with the children,where secrecy was required,photographers and cameras were supposed to be present to capture the action so that it could be spread abroad.

    If these were the only adverse consequences of pornography,the most straightforward remedy would be to provide factually accurate information on human sexuality to people before they are exposed to pornography,if only we could agree on what that information is,on who should provide it to the many children whose parents are incapable of doing so,and on effective and acceptable means by which to ensure that exposure not precede education. In the absence of such a remedy,the probable consequences in this area alone are sufficient to support recommendations that would reduce the dissemination of that pornography which teaches false,misleading or dangerous information about human sexuality. And these are not the only adverse consequences of pornography.

    He then says before he gives more examples and research,that pornography is a health problem and human rights issue because it increases the probability that members of the exposed population will acquire attitudes that are detrimental to the physical and mental health of both those exposed and those around them,pornography is a health problem and human rights issue because it is used as an instrument of sexual abuse and sexual harassment.

    And look where we are now! They and the other sick,woman-hating,pornography influenced reviewers are actually *proving* Dr.Gail Dines and other anti-pornography educators are so right in how they have been so influenced and desensitized by the sexualized,normalized, and eroticized, extremely sexist,sick,dehumanizing,violent,cruel horrendous typical pornography that has been so unjustly,and wrongly mainstreamed that she describes in painfully extensive disturbing details! It’s clear that users who love this horrendous extremely sick,sexist,degrading,cruel,violent,horrendous sh** don’t want the truth about it to be recognized and they don’t want to stop using it! That is why they deny the reality of pornography and defend it!

    And as Gail Dines and others have so rightfully pointed out the average that boys watch online pornography is frighteningly age 11 and some even younger!

  4. RR says:

    MIT WOMEN STUDENTS SEXUALLY HARASSED BY MALE STUDEN

    http://tech.mit.edu/V104/PDF/V104-N59.pdf

    TUESDAY, DECEMBER 11, 1984 The Tech PAGE 3

    At MIT, it is now well documented
    by women students, dormitory
    housemasters, dormitory
    tutors, and freshman faculty advisors
    that sexual harassment and
    abuse of women students occurs
    immediately before and after the
    showing of pornographic films.
    Women who were unclear about
    what pornography is have been
    coerced by peer pressure and by
    force into seeing the films. Afterward
    women have been forcibly
    thrown into showers, subjected
    to detailed recounting of scenes from the film and to an increase in sexually demeaning comments and jokes. These and other actions clearly create an atmosphere which is specifically threatening to women. Even without these actions, pornography
    as a traditional event that portrays the sexual, objectification
    and abuse of women is in itself harassment of women.

    My objection to pornography
    is not an objection to some bad
    ideas floating around in some
    people’s heads, but to concrete
    violations of women’s civil rights.
    Elizabeth,.J. Salkind ’85

    _M PAGE 4 The Tech TUESDAY, DECEMBER 11, 1984

  5. RR says:

    Below is from the anti-pornography feminist site Pornography And The First Amendment. Twiss Butler of The Washington National Organization For women said to me that women who support pornography and call themselves “feminists” are supporting sexism and woman-hating and are *NOT* feminists,and she’s totally right they are traders and hypocrites!

    Women’s Institute for

    Freedom of the Press

    Pornography and the First Amendment

    Twiss Butler from her chapter “Why The First Amendment Is Being Used to Protect Violence Against Women,” in The Price We Pay, The Case Against Racist Speech, Hate Propaganda, and Pornography, Laura Lederer and Richard Delgado, eds. (NY: Hill & Wang, 1995)

    “Twiss Butler argues that men’s control of institutions of communication and education allows them to support speech that harms women and to suppress speech against that harm. She observes that the publishing industry funds legal, journalistic, and nonprofit organizations endorsing a First Amendment absolutist position. She contends that the industry’s defense of pornography as protected speech serves the double purpose of dignifying misogyny and establishing the First Amendment as the publisher’s product liability shield.” (p. 160)

    “When feminists criticize pornography as graphic misogyny, they are attacking not only the system of sexism itself, with its economic and social pay-offs for men, not only Playboy’s advertising rates, but also publishers’ broad First Amendment shield against liability for any harm caused by the products that they produce and sell.

    “The publishing industry and the men in it therefore have a conflict of interest in reporting a critique of pornography as inimical to women’s civil rights (unsecured as those rights are by the Constitution). We need to consider how that conflict of interest distorts the information we receive through journalistic coverage of public debate and action on this issue.

    “Publishers protect their liability shield either by silencing feminists while granting speech to those who vilify them, or by misrepresenting the feminist critique of pornography. Women are given credibility and access to speech to the extent that they say what men want them to say. Stray from the script and you will be attacked, misquoted, or simply go unheard. As power brokers in a large industry profiting from sexism, publishers disguise this censorship as selfless concern for the First Amendment and freedom of speech. (p. 163) …

    “In the news business as elsewhere, men have long relied on the weapon of pornography to avoid having to compete on their own merits. The role pornography plays in keeping women journalists at a disadvantage is evident in the experience of Lynn Carrier, an editorial writer for the San Diego Tribune who sued the paper in 1990 for sex discrimination and harassment. Men coworkers attempted to intimidate and segregate Carrier by displaying pornography in the office, using sexual insults when talking with her, and asking her to run out and buy a copy of Playboy for her supervisor–who also wondered aloud what she would charge Playboy for posing nude for photographs. Carrier won her civil suit (refusing, incidentally, to accept a secret settlement), but the outcome was typical–she no longer works at the Tribune, but is employed instead at a smaller paper in the area. (p. 164) …

    “To protect pornography, women’s speech must be carefully controlled. When Linda Lovelace said she loved starring in pornographic films, she was treated as credible; when Linda Marchiano said that she had been beaten, raped, and coerced into making those films, her credibility was questioned. No risk is overlooked. At a National Press Club speech by Christie Hefner in 1986, I addressed her ‘as a pornographer’ in a written question about her lawsuit to censor testimony from a federal hearing that referred to Playboy as pornography; when my question was read aloud by the club’s president, these three words were deleted.” (pp. 166-167)

    [This chapter by Twiss Butler alone is worth the purchase of The Price We Pay, The Case Against Racist Speech, Hate Propaganda, and Pornography. The entire book is excellent and highly recommended.]

  6. RR says:

    Powerful important late 1990’s interview with feminist psychiatrist Linnea Smith on the many harms of playboy and pornography in general

    http://www.talkintrash.com/SmithInt.html

    Linnea Smith Interview: Part I – talkintrash.com

    http://www.talkintrash.com

    Linnea Smith is your average woman of the 90s. She has a satisfying family life, rewarding career in mental health and interests that include …

    In this great 1990’s article feminist psychiatrist Dr.Linnea Smith talks about the large amount of research studies on the harmsd of pornography in general playboy Magazine promoting and normalizing sexual abuse of women and children for decades.

  7. RR says:

    Former Heterosexual Male Porn User Admits Porn Reduces Women To Nothing But F**kholes

    Forum Name Women’s Rights

    http://www.democraticunderground.com/di … x6696#6812

    6812, Since you

    Posted by gaspee on Sat Mar-31-07 08:28 AM

    — (warning for frank language.)

    Seem to think only people who have seen a lot of porn are qualified to speak, I might meet your qualifications. I’ve watched a lot of porn. I used to have no problem with porn. I *write* erotica for a few online magazines. A few years ago, I got so disgusted by het porn that I’ve never watched it again. I will watch gay porn, either m/m or made for *women* f/f. I won’t watch made for men f/f.

    porn is degrading to women. Period. Mainstream porn, especailly. I’ve watched a lot of it over the years. I’m no spring chicken. I don’t have a problem watching m/m porn. Funny, that. Know why? because I don’t take it personally when men are treated like a f*ck hole. Hmmm… I think I’m onto why most men don’t have a problem watching women turned into nothing but a place to stick their d*ck.

    When watching for what passes as mainstream porn these days, I get sick to my stomach. Anal, face f**king to the point where the poor girl is next to vomiting, slapping, demeaning talk. it’s all there in mainstream porn. Why men are so turned on by anal in het porn has always been a mystery to me. Why women do it is another mystery. I can get why men have anal sex. Women do it because men want them to.

    What makes me the most sick is the look in the girls’, oh sorry, *actresses*, eyes. It f**king kills me these days, which is why I don’t watch het porn any more.

    And I’m speaking as someone who has seen a lot of it.

    Now put on some Bel Ami stuff and my girlfriend and I are quite happy. Why? Watch it sometime, then watch the current top five or ten selling het porn titles and I think you’ll see the difference. And if you don’t, that’s a little scary.

    And to continually say that het porn “isn’t like that” and looking at the top selling and rented titles makes me think you are being disingenious or in plain old denial.

    Because the most popular het porn is like that.

    And someone doesn’t have to watch a lot of porn to see just how degrading to women it is.

    Forum Name Women’s Rights

    Topic subject Hmmm, no response to your post. Wonder why?

    Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/di … x6696#6835

    Posted by Morgana LaFey on Wed Apr-04-07 10:14 PM

    And someone doesn’t have to watch a lot of porn to see just how degrading to women it is.

    Yup.

    and:

    I don’t have a problem watching m/m porn. Funny, that. Know why? because I don’t take it personally when men are treated like a f**k hole. Hmmm… I think I’m onto why most men don’t have a problem watching women turned into nothing but a place to stick their d**k.’

    Especially when they’ve been taught and continously reassured that women LIKE that, or if they don’t something wrong with them.

  8. RR says:

    This article from The Vancouver Rape Relief & Women’s Shelter discusses their protest work educating on the sexist,violent,woman-hating harms of pornography and it mentions a case of a woman who called their rape crisis hotline after she was raped by a man who repeatedly terrorized by a man who left pornographic pictures on her doorstep and some of it was violent,some of it was ”soft-core” At first she was confused and thought that this might be a joke or a sexual come-on. It says when the man broke into her apartment and brutally raped her his intentions became clear.

    http://www.rapereliefshelter.bc.ca/learn/resources/rape-relief-files-1984

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